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		<title>By: Mike Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, much like yourself I enjoy seeing how things work as well.  So while learning, anything you can do that works will boost your self confidence and push you onwards.  I could easily see a beginner getting frustrated quickly learning C++.

You also bring up another good question I am curious about.  How do most people learn programming?  I am one of those that learn the best through self teaching.  I enjoy just building a small app using something new to further my skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, much like yourself I enjoy seeing how things work as well.  So while learning, anything you can do that works will boost your self confidence and push you onwards.  I could easily see a beginner getting frustrated quickly learning C++.</p>
<p>You also bring up another good question I am curious about.  How do most people learn programming?  I am one of those that learn the best through self teaching.  I enjoy just building a small app using something new to further my skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Nadel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Nadel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are they going to be learning? Self-taught? Taking a class?

For me, I love to see how things work; as such, whatever the lowest-hanging fruit would be to write some code and have it work would be the answer. 

Sounds like something Javascript would be great at. Runs directly in the browser. NO compiler, NO additional software, NO application server.

Also has OO and non-OO principles, closures, functions, event-driven programming; it&#039;s a super robust language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are they going to be learning? Self-taught? Taking a class?</p>
<p>For me, I love to see how things work; as such, whatever the lowest-hanging fruit would be to write some code and have it work would be the answer. </p>
<p>Sounds like something Javascript would be great at. Runs directly in the browser. NO compiler, NO additional software, NO application server.</p>
<p>Also has OO and non-OO principles, closures, functions, event-driven programming; it&#8217;s a super robust language.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James brings up an interesting choice with C++.  I browsed around Google a bit and many folks also recommended learning C++ as a first language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James brings up an interesting choice with C++.  I browsed around Google a bit and many folks also recommended learning C++ as a first language.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Courchaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Courchaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given your description of what the beginner wants to do (&quot;...interested in building web based applications&quot;), I would recommend Coldfusion!

Somewhere I heard CF referred to as a good example of a Domain Specific Language (DSL) for web applications.

DSLs have the benefit of bypassing many hurdles encountered when compared to trying to do something with a more general language.

Since the beginner is already placed in the web application domain, start using the best DSL for the job!

Plenty of time to learn other tools as the need arises!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given your description of what the beginner wants to do (&#8220;&#8230;interested in building web based applications&#8221;), I would recommend Coldfusion!</p>
<p>Somewhere I heard CF referred to as a good example of a Domain Specific Language (DSL) for web applications.</p>
<p>DSLs have the benefit of bypassing many hurdles encountered when compared to trying to do something with a more general language.</p>
<p>Since the beginner is already placed in the web application domain, start using the best DSL for the job!</p>
<p>Plenty of time to learn other tools as the need arises!</p>
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		<title>By: James White</title>
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		<dc:creator>James White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think C# is a good language and so is Java.  However, I think the best language(s) to start with are C/C++.  yes they are complex, yes they give you way more power than a beginner programmer will ever need, but C/C++ has impacted almost every language that has come after it directly or indirectly especially C# and Java.  if you can wrap your mind around C++, then C#, Java, are a lot easier.  I wish I had started with C++ years ago myself.  I did later learn it, and was glad I did.  I think from a scripting perspective, the first language to learn should be JavaScript, it sets the table for many of the scripting languages used today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think C# is a good language and so is Java.  However, I think the best language(s) to start with are C/C++.  yes they are complex, yes they give you way more power than a beginner programmer will ever need, but C/C++ has impacted almost every language that has come after it directly or indirectly especially C# and Java.  if you can wrap your mind around C++, then C#, Java, are a lot easier.  I wish I had started with C++ years ago myself.  I did later learn it, and was glad I did.  I think from a scripting perspective, the first language to learn should be JavaScript, it sets the table for many of the scripting languages used today.</p>
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		<title>By: John Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post!

I would say that it depends what you are are trying to do. I started taking Intro to CS at university of Hawaii and it was java, and I used to say that this was the best starting point, but I have changed over the years.

In general I would  say java was a great starting point, as it taught core programming fundamentals, OOP, etc. 

Since then I moved to AS 3 and learning AS 3 was easy with the java background. Therefore in general I say learning the fundamentals &amp; OOP can get you up to speed quickly on any language.

I would say for the web, ColdFusion is a great starting point. I say this as I have taken lots of student help who knew basic html, maybe some javaScript and I got them up and running making dynamic web site in a very short time. Also, I would say that doing more advance web programming ColdFusion is great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post!</p>
<p>I would say that it depends what you are are trying to do. I started taking Intro to CS at university of Hawaii and it was java, and I used to say that this was the best starting point, but I have changed over the years.</p>
<p>In general I would  say java was a great starting point, as it taught core programming fundamentals, OOP, etc. </p>
<p>Since then I moved to AS 3 and learning AS 3 was easy with the java background. Therefore in general I say learning the fundamentals &amp; OOP can get you up to speed quickly on any language.</p>
<p>I would say for the web, ColdFusion is a great starting point. I say this as I have taken lots of student help who knew basic html, maybe some javaScript and I got them up and running making dynamic web site in a very short time. Also, I would say that doing more advance web programming ColdFusion is great!</p>
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